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  • Gem Stone-Logan, California Digital Library;

  • Sean Claudio, UC Irvine 

  • Jackie Gosselar, UC Berkeley

  • Jessica Kruppa, UC Riverside, Chair 

  • Jess Waggoner, UC Santa Cruz

  • Zach Silveira, UC San Francisco

  • Jared Campbell, UC Davis

  • Michael Craig, UC Santa Barbara

  • Douglas Worsham, UC San Diego

  • Joe Ameen, UC Merced

Not Present

  • Zoe Tucker, UC Los Angeles

Not Present

  • Joshua Gomez, UCLA, UX Subgroup

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Desired Outcome

Notes

Decisions / Discussion

Actions

1

Sharing and Updates

5

Share any Discovery related information from other SILS groups

OT/LG:LG: Talked about schedule due to holidays. Continued review of work plan. Reviewed LG charge. Two subgroups including a named user count group. Also the renewal negotiation project team.

OT: Spent a lot of time talking about removing the comma and syncing with the NZ table. NOTE: This change might mess up the CSS used to customize campus names in the facets.

All-Chairs: Updates. Started consolidating the beefs. Jackie/Sarah will be meeting with Adriana around some of this. Adriana may be able to get us more access to development/product managers.

Accessibility concerns: Will be meeting every two weeks. Ex Libris is trying to deal with the issues identified in the VPAT by Q1 2024. UCB has an accessibility screen reader user that uses Firefox and has concerns about how well it works with that. Want a better understanding of WCAG standards and what is being supported. UCB has a DOJ mandate for WCAG 2.0.

Gem will post the comma test plan on Slack next week so everyone can take a look. After the sandbox change has been made, she’ll also post to Slack so everyone interested can take a look at any potential changes in Primo.

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Slack/General Questions

5

UCSD continues to have intermittent problems with images not loading. So far, no other campus has noticed this problem.

3

Quick Topics

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Discuss how the brief result availability label is setup at each campus

This is controlled by the Calculated Availability Text labels. This table contains many values. However, we’re probably just interested in the most common. Side note, the default case of these labels varies widely.

Members will export their Calculated Availability Text Labels so we can compare and highlight the ones you felt were important to change.

4

Exclude eBooks from CDI Results

25

Start discussion on topic and determine next steps.

  • For this setting, what does Ex Libris consider an eBook? Is it actually an ebook or anything that’s a monograph? (Per Ex Libris ticket 06904256, “Primo VE uses the CDI record’s metadata (rtype) to set the resource type”)

    • What makes this up?

    • Answer is a little vague, we may need to test this specifically.

    • Jesse found ExL documentation about CDI resource types and noted, “You can find the rtype of a record using &showPnx=true at the end of the url or the little showpnx bookmarklet thing.”

  • Review which campuses are still hearing issues around duplication (Gem was suppose to have asked this question in Slack ahead of time and forgot)

    • UCSC - usability testing was pre-sils and there were more duplicates than post-live. Faculty in particularly didn’t like it. Now, not sure how frequently they’re seeing duplicates but know it’s still happening.

    • UCD - was initially getting a lot of tickets but fewer now but can’t say for sure why

    • Are we getting fewer tickets just because people are tired of reporting them.

  • Current status: does everyone have this turned off?

    • UCI does have this on right now.

    • UCR also has this on but only for the UC Riverside search scope (not their default scope)

  • Who are our Stakeholders?

    • Discovery

    • CDL Shared Collections (including SCP)

    • e-Resources

    • Are ETD considered ebooks? (If so, Resource Management due to this policy) - RM will definitely want to know what we decide

    • OT at least be informed

    • Resource Sharing (because of ILL implications)

    • Is everything in this document still accurate? Exclude eBooks from CDI Results decision page from previous discussions

    Review the Exclude eBooks from CDI Results decision page and come up with a testing plan.

    • Discussed what scenarios we want to test.

    • Discussed which Collections to look at.

    • Gem will add the collections that CDL Shared Collections is particularly interested in.

    • Gem will start a spreadsheet to use for testing and bring to the Disc steering committee for refinement.

    5

    Next Steps

    5

    6

    Parking Lot

    Next Primo VE release meeting: November 17

    Worldcat Links (tentatively talk about this TBD)

    Potential discussions for later:

    • talk about brief result availability label (calculated availability).

    • What next steps to encourage patrons to do when they don’t find what they’re looking for.

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