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Desired Outcome

Time

Who

Notes

Decisions

Actions

1

Meeting notes & times

Previous meeting notes are reviewed

5m

Ellen

  • Notes are public & imperfect

  • Speakers confirm content of notes

  • Thursdays at 12 noon was the only available time for December.



2

Work plan draft review - discuss and share suggestions https://docs.google.com/document/d/19fx4_tp3iEPEPNWsqmvzixQPylAD48rbOxRpI_9NRhc/edit

Any agreed-upon Work plan elements are recorded.

Priorities for next meeting’s discussion & further work are developed.

Let’s establish clarity. Potential goals for final plan:

  • Meet tight deadline.

  • Distribute to subgroups so that work can happen in parallel?

  • Clarity on campus & CDL needs from deliverables

  • Alignment from committee members on realistic approaches to fulfilling charges

15m

Ellen, All

  • Agreement: We will spend December establishing shared agreement on how we’re fulfilling this charge, what our final deliverables are.

  • Impact of material type issues: Can we all put our material types on the table (looking at the data we have) and consider how we might harmonize (including issues with doing so, potential actions/needs that might stem from it)?

  • Agreement: For those data points that are not viable or meaningful, this group could make a recommendation to stop counting/reporting (similar to how schedule B was dropped for 21/22 - it was a recommendation put forward to CoUL; we can do that again). But we are not charged to revamp what data we collect.

  • Do we want to compile how we currently all report fulfill the UCL/OP data requirements for statistics, to see our differences/similarities? Or do we establish a central report now, and then seek to validate/change?

    • Agreement: First we want to look at what we are all doing (how we’ve designed our reports - what data points, from which tables, we’re using); where do we have commonalities on how we define/report? what are our differences?

    • How can we flag the gymnastics and workarounds? How can we assess whether we should stop doing the gymnastics? One outcome is doing things more simply.

  • How might we format and compare our compiled data? If we have a shared form/template where we cleanly compile out data (tidy data - save us from parsing SQL), how do we organize that?

    • Regarding material type, could use historical reporting to identify migration issues and seek changes. We will also need to consult with SSCP, potentially local cataloguing teams, regarding current practices.

    • Hand counting - how can we move away from that? (We are empowered to make this recommendation - our first principle, assigned by CoUL and DOC is: We seek to reduce unnecessary manual and duplicative work.

  • How can we define what is good enough? This is about order of magnitude.

    • This is also about changing what people expect from statistics; how do we change perceptions and get folks more open to order of magnitude reporting (how do we set expectations)?

  • Shared reporting for Statistics is a goal; we haven’t yet talked about how this might be a shared service and what that shared service might look like (done centrally, and then connected to systemwide group)?

3

Wrap up

Review actions and decisions

5

4

Parking Lot

Capture important topics for future discussion

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