2020-12-14 Meeting Notes

Welcome

Catch-up and gathering together

10:00 - 10:05 am

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Announcement

Inform. Document created to assist in gathering background research on how other consortia have managed CDI

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mSqeGF1ofjW7zEL1zibyW0BRhhv_waLp9ixVqhcvifA/edit?usp=sharing

Discussion topic: open access discovery

PSELG roles in open access discovery - consensus decisions

10:06 - 11:05 am

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Co-chairs met with w/ Ivy Anderson, Chair, JSC; Michael Walmsley, member of JSC on December 8th to discuss questions posed PSELG members.

• difference in approach to question about what to do with OA - a) JSC should do this v. b) lots of input needed, JSC sets priorities, others may have different perspectives on public service

• Michael and Ivy will take questions back to larger group at next JSC meeting, currently scheduled for January 11th

Framework for discussion in PSELG:

• Prior to the discussion on 12/14/20, review two documents, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XTNbbSmYdluXFY3-yWvUSRAG_tMn1YxQE_4a0yEi6aw/edit?usp=sharing ; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ezBfv5SvudAiI2XK7xrzvCrCGd3dU8fu/view?usp=sharing

• Discussion questions based on the open access discover decision tree

1. Operations: what is PSELG role in cataloging decisions?

2. Operations: what is PSELG role in CDI decisions?

3. Philosophy of the catalog: what is PSELG role?

General notes:

What is PSELG’s contribution to the process while we wait for the SILS governance structure to be in place? This leads us to the meta-question about OA discovery and how do we scope this discussion for PSELG & SILS.

• Let’s stop calling Primo VE a catalog - discovery system/interface - what is the philosophy of discovery system?

• Multiple groups own this - how can be package this so that at the right time, the right people get their piece of the package and decisions don't get made in vacuums

• CDI is coming up in many groups - it's almost a chicken & egg discussion - smaller use cases for individual resources v. global decisions about policies

• CDI implementation for ALMA campuses are paused until March because unsure of how it will work with SCP message

• UCs are at a tipping point regarding how we deal with journals (transformative models) - the blurred lines of what we pay for (publish & read v. access for a journal) means that the line about what should go here or there is in question. Relatedly, the discovery point has changed with this new future of publishing.

Question: do we pause and wait for systems (SILS) to mature? or do we move forward with information discovery?

• Could we summarize our notes and communicate out - would that be sufficient? Would the format of the decision page give people outside of the SILS structure the wrong impression about who gets to make the ultimate decision? Whatever the decision is we should keep as many people as possible informed.

• as part of background make sure to inform that this isn't a SILS exclusive decisions, it's bigger than that

• tag for post implementation issues?

• who is deciding the CDI?

We recognize decisions need to be made to get things up and running - this is an initial path and we can test/evaluate. After implementation, we recommend a discussion about discovery before we get too set in our ways.

Proposed: We update the decision page with documentation included to make the discussions & information gathered so far publicly available beyond PSELG. We tag decision page with a "post-implementation issue" tag & make sure it doesn't get dropped. Things specifically to not drop:

• CDI - who is deciding what that will look like?

• philosophy of discovery layer - how it operates and what is included

  • specifically, how decisions are made with regards to the content (including OA) that appears in the discovery layer?

  • how the content (including OA) appears in the discovery?

  • Note: original question and evolution needs to be included in any decision page

Not ready to force a decision yet. Will take this up at a meeting in January (most likely the 11th).

Add campus documentation in our OA google drive folder.

Wrap-up and next steps

Review actions and assignments

11:06 - 11:20

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Parking Lot

Capture important topics for future discussion

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